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By Wendy Osher

Maui Fire Chief Jeffrey Murray is hoping the public will be able to provide a lead in a felony investigation launched into a rash of  unscheduled cane fires on Maui.

Since the incidents began in May, eight fires have burned more than 42-acres and resulted in a combined loss of $182,500 to Hawaiian Commercial & Sugar Company crops, authorities said.

“I’d like to see the community just be aware of their surroundings in their neighborhoods and just report anything suspicious or out of the ordinary,” said Chief Murray in a press conference today.

“They may or may not see it, but they might be the lead that takes us to solve some of these issues. And we just want the people to stop because its impacting a lot of innocent people.” he said.

Maui Fire Chief Jeffery Murray speaks to the media about the rash of fires under investigation.  Photo by Wendy Osher.

Maui Fire Chief Jeffery Murray speaks to the media about the rash of fires under investigation. Photo by Wendy Osher.

“We feel it’s time to make a statement because we want to be sure that these fires stop happening, because of the safety of our firefighters as well as the community that we serve,” said Chief Murray.

“At some point, we might not be able to be there on time or its going to take us away from another emergency that could use us,” he said.

He noted that some of the incidents have occurred within an hour of each other, “it leads us to believe that there’s something not right about it.”

Chief Murray said some items have been sent to the crime lab as part of the investigation, but said the police department will return findings upon completion and a make final determination on any charges.

“We’re just trying to keep everybody safe,” said Chief Murray.

Individuals with information about the fires are asked to call the public number for the Maui Police Department’s Criminal Investigation Division at 244-6425.

County authorities provided a list of the suspicious incidents that included the following:

Maui Fire Chief Jeffery Murray speaks to the media about the rash of fires under investigation.  Photo by Wendy Osher.

Maui Fire Chief Jeffery Murray speaks to the media near the site of one of the suspicious fires in Waikapū. Photo by Wendy Osher.

HC&S workers were on scene this morning, attempting to salvage some of the cane burned during one of the suspicious fires in Waikapū. Photo by Wendy Osher.

HC&S workers were on scene this morning, attempting to salvage some of the cane burned during one of the suspicious fires in Waikapū. Photo by Wendy Osher.

One of the suspicious fires was reported on June 13, 2013, at 10:57 p.m. near Honoapiʻilani Highway, south of the Waikapū on 30 restaurant.  Photo by Wendy Osher.

One of the suspicious fires was reported on June 13, 2013, at 10:57 p.m. near Honoapiʻilani Highway, south of the Waikapū on 30 restaurant. Photo by Wendy Osher.

Maui Fire Chief Jeffery Murray.  Photo by Wendy Osher.

Maui Fire Chief Jeffery Murray. Photo by Wendy Osher.

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  • eoe

    Maybe someone who doesn’t like sugar cane? And who lives in / near Paia? And is mentally unstable?

    • Vern

      You’re probably right about dummy living in or near Paia.
      You’re probably also right about the mental instability.

      My money says the mental instability is going to turn out to be permanent brain damage caused by illegal psychoactive drugs like marijuana and/or crystal meth.

      • Vern

        I would also strongly suspect that dummy is an adult male who is a momma’s boy, not a man- that is to say that his mother raised him wrong, she still has to take care of him since he’s not smart enough to be able to get a job, and he still lives in his mom’s house with her.

        I also suspect that he goes through life fat, drunk, and stupid, due to his excessive consumption of large amounts of crappy semi-fermented watered-down urine-flavored green-bottled discount supermarket type rice water from Holland, marketed as a potable liquid the manufacturer claims is “beer”.

        • Local Boy

          I suspect it could be a woman who doesn’t like sugar cane and lives in kihei and is a HAOLE……………………

          • Jas

            Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…..I wonder who that could be. Doesn’t make sense: hates cane fires and smoke yet goes and starts cane fires and smoke.

          • Local Boy

            Think a little deeper. She want the sugar company to go broke and sets the cane on fire away from kihei. Look at the locations of the fires.

        • Vern

          Yeah, I’m kinda wondering who Local Boy is too. He seems to be attempting to use some kind of thinly-veiled misdirection technique. It doesn’t appear to be working, lol.

      • Vern

        It would not surprise me if dummy has no driver’s license, but gets around Paia using a stolen, rusty, rotting, clapped-out, 12-horsepower air-cooled Honda XR250 play bike with tires worn so bald in the middle from paved public roads, they look like the top of Danny DeVito’s head.

        Bonus points for “disguising” it with a cheap can of Krylon spray enamel at three in the morning while drunk, high, and/or tweaking, as well as using enough bitter Maui Built stickers to communicate to the whole world exactly how much sand he has in his vagina.

      • Vern

        I would also not be surprised, if dummy turns out to be someone who chooses to show his respect for the rest of us (167,000 of whom are employed thanks to the $39 million dollars a year that tourists spend here), by giving tourists lovely stories to tell (to anyone back home that will listen), about how the window of their rental car got smashed out and all their valuables got stolen while visiting Maui.

        You can’t buy tourism press like that.
        So next time you wonder why there aren’t more jobs available, or you wonder why employers don’t have enough money to pay you more, thank dummy.

        • proud local

          Your comments are just totally irritating.

          • Vern

            Why would you think that? The only people that should be irritated by my comments are criminals.

          • proud local

            Because your comments are so stereotypical it becomes irritating.

          • Vern

            Stereotypical of who? Criminals? Who cares if a criminal gets irritated?

      • IngSoc

        Are you seriously grouping Weed in with Meth? Tisk tisk.

      • Vern

        I would not be surprised if dummy owns a Tap-Out t-shirt and has an MMA heavy bag hanging in his mom’s carport, even though his biggest threat is actually gravity.

      • Vern

        I would not be surprised if dummy has been saving up to buy his neighbors decrepit old Toyota pickup, but every time dummy sells more than $50 worth of drugs or steals more than $50, he smokes it.

        You know, the Toyota pickup with the completely bald skateboard wheel sized Interco TSL Super Swamper Bogger tires that hydroplane in fog. The Toyota pickup with the 12″ lift kit that binds up and leaves him stuck on clean dry pavement when trying to enter an angled driveway. And although the vehicle was manufactured as a 4-wheel drive, the ridiculous lift kit prevents him from being able to run a front driveshaft, so it’s now permanently a 2-wheel drive. Bizarre offset wheels and stacks of wheel spacers, so that it gets a death wobble at anything over 45 mph, and if he bumps into a curb, the wheel snaps off. The last time he got stuck entering the parking lot of Safeway, a tourist with a convertible Mustang rental car pulled him out of the way. Kinda like the rental Mustangs he steals his safety and tax stickers off of.

        But that’s okay, because it serves a purpose- it’s got three seats, for the 9 members of his family. It’s a 4-cylinder Toyota pickup that gets 9 mpg. It will pull almost 50 mph up Haleakala Highway. When the tailgate is opened, the floor of the bed comes up to his chin, which makes it really handy for loading and unloading cargo. And if he needs to be able to see outside, he can just roll his gangster-tinted windows down.

      • Maui_Mike

        Categorizing pot as a psychoactive drug in the same class as meth is naive, I have to hope you were just being facetious.

  • Maui_Mike

    Someone “anonymous” takes credit for the arson here in comments for the original story on June 14….probably not credible though.

    • _

      more likely untraceable.

      • Maui_Mike

        Nothing done on the Internet is untraceable, just ask the NSA, hard to trace perhaps, but far from impossible.

        • _

          When does the NSA arrive on Maui?

          • Maui_Mike

            Apparently they are everywhere and nowhere at the same time….lol.

        • usbworks

          It’s very simple to get an IP address for “anonymous” at the time of his post. Then they will pay a visit to that address and review any nearby security camera video to try and identify the suspect.

          • _

            What happens what that IP address comes from Sweden? Will MPD be knocking on the door there?

          • usbworks

            Using Tor does help you bounce your IP address through foreign servers but it also guarantees that the NSA records that browsing data. Amazingly, the NSA can hand over your information to the FBI for evidence of any crime, not just terrorism. Welcome to the real world, Neo.

          • Dakine

            Will NSA be supporting MPD in looking for a firebug? Hard to imagine they don’t have more important things to do, like snooping on regular citizens who aren’t breaking the law. If NSA doesnt support MPD, I dont believe MPD has the expertise to tracerout themselves out of a paperbag. From MPD perspective, untraceable like the OP said.

          • usbworks

            Arson is a pretty serious crime. MPD will probably request the FBI’s help to identify ananymous. Whether the FBI then requests the NSA data is the only question. Still, this will only identify the server or servers that Tor was using to hide the access to this forum. They will not have the original IP address here in Hawaii, because they delete them.

          • Dakine

            You just confirmed it again. The fact that these VPN servers are deleting any trace of the origin IPs makes them untraceable. Having the server or server that Tor was using to hide the IP is not enough to get the IP address and tie it to a specific user. So, your not saying the OP is wrong cause that sounds darn untraceable. If I misread you, then explain the next step? So far, you got a bunch of servers that purge their IP records in a foreign country. What then? How do you isolate the IP from there? I wish I understand this spook stuff better with all these NSA news going on.

          • usbworks

            Sorry Dakine. I’ve been super busy.

            The NSA collects and keeps all outgoing to & incoming traffic from TOR servers. Since these TOR servers delete all record of a communication passing through their waypoint, it’s difficult to trace the original sender’s IP address and identity. In other words, the original communication is captured by the NSA as an incoming post on the forum from a TOR server and a separate outgoing post to a foreign TOR server.

            Still, using very fast computers it would be pretty simple to match up separate outgoing data with a particular incoming post based on the contents and other identifiers in the data. But, all data moving between a TOR browser and a TOR server is encrypted making it very time consuming to decipher the contents of the outgoing message.

            All in all pretty effective.

          • Dakine

            Also, as I said above, I doubt the person posting on this forum has any ties to the fires. More likely an uneducated hippy.

          • usbworks

            I disagree. I believe he is involved in some capacity. Furthermore, his knowledge of stealth internet access shows that he’s very educated.

          • Dakine

            The guy posting, maybe. The guy lighting Maui on fire, not so much. Im not convinced at this point. Too many trolls on this forum. Also, the anonymous poster hasnt really said anything specific to show that he has ANY knowledge that he hasnt seen on CSI in regards to hiding his IP address. I guess we will see.

    • usbworks

      Have you called the tip line at 244-6425?

      • Maui_Mike

        I shared the information with MPD & MFD, they are “looking into it”
        I hope it leads to an arrest, you are right, they can trace Internet activity even if you use public wifi, cameras are everywhere these days.

        • _

          I hope you didnt waste their time.

  • Dakine

    I really doubt anyone who did this even knows how to use, let alone, own a computer.


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